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Poster:coughdrop33
Date:2008-01-16 19:40
Subject:i did some research and am trying to get this out
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websites on the topic of narconon being directly linked to scientology:

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/297/ripoff0297114.htm

http://theb3nut.tripod.com/narconon-cos.html

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Narconon/whatisnn.htm

http://www.narcononwatch.org/narconon-exposed.html

http://www.lermanet.com/narconon/


information on scientology that i felt links to why it should not be used to cure drug addictions and just other interesting things about it.

In the 1960s Hubbard gave certain dietary recommendations,[97] writing that breastfeeding should be avoided if the mother is smoking, drinking or is lacking good nutrition herself.[98] Hubbard described common replacement formulas as "mixed milk powder, glucose and water, total carbohydrate" and offered as an alternative to commercial products what he called the "Barley Formula" made from barley water, homogenized milk and corn syrup.[99] Hubbard claims that he "picked it up in Roman days,"[100] referring to the use of barley.[101] Hubbard crafted the barley formula to, in his words, provide "a heavy percentage of protein"[100] and called it "the nearest approach to human milk that can be assembled easily."[102] Although the formula is still popular with many Scientologists, health practitioners advise that it is an inappropriate replacement due to the absence of important nutrients like Vitamin C,[103] the lack of which causes scurvy (a deficiency disease!).

pretty much, this guy just made up stuff that people follow and since he had absolutely no scientific knowledge it is not safe at all.

Narconon manages a number of drug treatment centers worldwide and was founded by William Benitez in 1966.[124] Benitez was an inmate who found a book by Hubbard in the Arizona State Prison library and got himself and other inmates off drugs.

the Church of Scientology has, from its inception, been one of the most controversial, coming into conflict with the governments and police forces of several countries (including the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada[137] and Germany) numerous times over the years.

Conflicting claims about L. Ron Hubbard's life, in particular accounts of Hubbard discussing his intent to start a religion for profit, and of his service in the military.[145]

Attempts to legally force search engines such as Google and Yahoo to omit any webpages critical of Scientology from their search engines (and in Google's case, AdSense), or at least the first few search pages.[146]

In France, the Church of Scientology was categorized as a sect (or cult) in the report of the National Assembly of France in 1995.[180] A more recent government report in 2000 categorized the church as an "absolute sect" and recommended that all its activities be prohibited.[181]

The Church of Scientology and its many related organizations have amassed considerable real estate holdings worldwide, likely in the hundreds of millions of dollars, as well as a large amount of other funds from the practice of auditing.[145] Hubbard was accused in his lifetime of adopting a religious façade for Scientology to allow the organization to maintain tax-exempt status and to avoid prosecution for false medical claims.[198] There have been numerous accounts from Hubbard's fellow science-fiction authors and researchers, notably Harlan Ellison, Neison Himmel, Sam Merwin, Sam Moskowitz, Theodore Sturgeon, Lloyd Arthur Eshbach, and Lyle Stuart,[179] of Hubbard stating on various occasions that the way to get rich was to start a religion.[199]

Scientology pays members commissions on new recruits they bring in, encouraging Scientology members to "sell" Scientology to others

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Poster:desertphile
Date:2006-01-03 11:45
Subject:Scientology salesperson raped customer
Security:Public

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/archive/2004/July/06/local/stories/04local.htm

/WATSONVILLE -- A woman who says she was raped at a drug- treatment center has sued Narconon of Northern California and its parent company, Narconon International, alleging she was assaulted by a staff member while undergoing treatment in November 2003.The suit alleges that when notified of the assault, staff at the Watsonville treatment center failed to respond in an appropriate manner and took the unidentified, out- of-state woman out of treatment. The Sentinel is not identifying the plaintiff because of the nature of the crime.In February, the incident was reported to the Santa Cruz County Sheriff's Office, which investigated and turned it over to the District Attorney's Office. A decision on whether to prosecute has yet to be made, prosecutor Jeff Rosell said.Due to federal privacy laws, Narconon would not confirm that the woman was in their drug-treatment program. "We are taking this very seriously and are conducting an internal investigation," Narconon President Clark Carr said from the company's Los Angeles headquarters.Narconon, which has offered drug-treatment programs in California since 1970, is a subsidiary of the Association for Better Living and Education, founded in 1988. The company runs more than 100 rehabilitation and drug-prevention centers worldwide, including three in California.The suit seeks an unspecified amount in damages for the alleged assault and 15 other charges, including infliction of emotional distress, negligence and breach of contract. If found guilty, punitive damages are awarded based on the wealth of the defendant. Narconon of Northern California and Narconon International reported assets of $1.6 million and $1 million to the IRS in 2002, respectively.

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Poster:desertphile
Date:2005-06-26 10:57
Subject:Scientology Comforts Me
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From: "Noesis" <xenushammer@yahoo.com>
Subject: Scientology Comforts Me
Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2005 23:19:16 -0400
Message-ID: <4363e192a919fbccf30add1e661d70d8@localhost.talkaboutreligion.com>

When the bad times come, and I'm feelin' blue, feeling ineffective, or like I could have done something better, when I'm thinking life sucks or worrying that I've not reached my full intellectual potential, I come here and read the babbling Sci-borgs and realize how much worse it could be.

At least I'm not a paranoid schizophrenic with multiple personality disorder and delusions of a godlike former life that believes clusters of aliens are sticking to me and making me flucnk my DMV exam. At least I don't think the way to Nirvana is to spend my last dime and the next dime I don't have to pay someone whose day job is selling vinyl siding to measure my palm sweat while inquiring into my tragic past life as a barnacle.

Thank you to the whole cast of now and future jobless, mindless and homeless mental patients who post here for CoS. No matter how bad things may get, you remind me how much worse it could be had I ever become so emotionally unstable and weak-minded as to fall prey to and actually become a true believer in the silliest, most asinine, most transparently fraudulent Ponzi scheme ever hatched.

Dear Sciborgs, you're uncanny Thetan ability to go through life with cranial rectumitis so severe you have to read this page through the gap between your front teeth-----well it just warms my heart to know that no matter how low life may bring me, I can still scrape away the whale excrement I'm standing on and find you in the muck below, spamming away with your infantile and ineffective slander and character assasination, making your enemies look good simply because you lowlifes are on the attack. We can only hope that those hours you spend as a human electrical jumper will destroy your reproductive organs as well as your brains.

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Poster:love_the_truth
Date:2005-03-27 11:30
Subject:Doctors back ban on NarConon
Security:Public

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2005/03/27/BAGTRBVGME1.DTL&type=printable

CALIFORNIA

Doctors back schools dropping flawed antidrug program

- Nanette Asimov, Chronicle Staff Writer
Sunday, March 27, 2005

The California Medical Association has declared unanimous support for school districts that have dropped Narconon and other "factually inaccurate approaches" to antidrug instruction from their classrooms, and will urge the American Medical Association to do the same.

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Poster:bigthetan
Date:2005-03-25 11:02
Subject:Narconon Bad News - Mr. Hubbard's amateur notions of biology
Security:Public

Clearwater Sun
August 8, 1991

Narconon Bad News
Experts: Amatuer Notions of Biology

by Pat St Germain
and Dawna Dingwall

If you have a drug problem, Narconon isn't the answer, some experts say.

"As far as I'm concerned, it's bad news, and I would not advise anyone to go near it," says UCLA psychiatry professor Dr. Louis West, who has studied the church since 1950, when it was L.Ron Hubbard's Dianetics, and not a recognized religion. '

"If someone needs help, they (Narconon) are taking the time and money away from a program that could actually help them," West said yesterday.

Narconon is oriented to lead clients to "the bridge -- which is the bridge between the Narconon front and the Scientology octopus," he said.

"Once on the bridge,they become audited,which is a one-way street to getting into the church."And once involved in Scientology, they're persuaded to pay for seemingly endless treatments, he said.

Claims that Narconon's programs are 75 to 95 per cent successful are questionable at best, he said, adding he knows of no scientific basis for Narconon studies of its success rate.

Its regimen of programmed exercise, vitamin treatments, and saunas to sweat out toxins is more useful as a "ceremony" than a treatment, he said.

"Their theories about how toxins are sweated out are based on Mr. Hubbard's amateur notions of biology. The risk of dehydration and the complications thereof far outweigh any real benefits."

Local drug expert Dr. Bill Jacyk also has doubts about Narconon's scientific claims.

"Their science is not valid," said Jacyk, a doctor for 25 years and an addiction specialist for 12 years.

The idea of "detoxifying" people isn't new, but trying to enhance the process is next to impossible, and can be dangerous, he said.

"I've heard of natives using sweat lodges to detoxify, but for people whose systems are already stressed by drug use, it could be harmful."

Taking vitamins is often recommended to drug users suffering from deficiencies, but the huge amounts Narconon advocates are beyond what's needed or helpful, and may be dangerous to some people, he said.

My greatest concern with the program is that people may feel euphoric and drug-free whenleavlng, but later may return to their former ways. "I'd like to see if those people are using again after three years," he said. A Vancouver substance abuse counsellor said the Narconon program there has been "basically blacklisted" by people in the field.

"We stay as far away from them as we can. We would never recommend the program to any of the people we deal with," said Tim Axsem, an executive director with Odyssey Substance Abuse Services for Youth. .

Two teenagers he counselled went through an initial Interview at Narconon, but rejected the program because of its "hard-sell, high-pressure tactics," he said.

"They tell the people were In their face the whole time, and the real issue was getting them in the program - not their drug use."

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Poster:desertphile
Date:2005-03-22 08:08
Subject:NarConon dangerous and ineffective
Security:Public

http://www.sptimes.com/News/32899/Pasco/Store_selling_Sciento.html
Store selling Scientology vitamin regimen raises concerns

Some physicians and a former Scientologist say the treatment, called a purification rundown [NarConon] , is dangerous and ineffective.

By GEOFF DOUGHERTY

St. Petersburg Times, published March 28, 1999

NEW PORT RICHEY -- Two members of the state physician's board are questioning whether a health-food store with ties to Scientology is practicing medicine illegally by offering a 'church'-sanctioned vitamin regimen.

The treatment, called "purification rundown," is one of the first steps Scientologists take upon joining the 'church.' 'Church' members tout the rundown as a purifying routine that enables people to kick drug abuse and "think more clearly and have more energy." Some physicians, and a former Scientologist interviewed by the Times, call it dangerous and ineffective.

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Poster:love_the_truth
Date:2005-03-22 08:06
Subject:Narconon advertising claim false
Security:Public

NEWS BULLETIN FROM THE DIOCESE OF BIRMINGHAM
Date: 25 March 2003


ADVERTISING AUTHORITY UPHOLDS COMPLAINT OVER "UNTRUTHFUL" SCIENTOLOGY CLAIMS

The Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) has today upheld a complaint by the Church of England over claims made by the Scientology movement that it had "saved 250,000 people from drug abuse."

The complaint was made by the Diocese of Birmingham following an advertising campaign which was run by Scientology in the summer of 2001 in Birmingham, London and Berkshire.

In their letter to the ASA, the Diocese of Birmingham complained that the poster breached the parts of the advertising code which related to truthfulness, honesty and substantiation. The Church wrote that the claims made by Scientology Inc. were "both dishonest and also misleading by both ambiguity and exaggeration."

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Poster:mellow_goat
Date:2005-03-22 08:00
Subject:narCONon received only adverse reports
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narCONon received adverse reports

Mail From Everywhere... Mayor Launches Narconon Inquiry After Receiving Adverse Reports From At Least Five Other States

The Newkirk Herald Journal
27 July 1989

Newkirk Mayor Garry Bilger says in the past two weeks he has been receiving mail from all overr the country since an Associated Press article concerning Narconon Chilocco was released.

The article, which appeared in newspapers from Corpus Christi, Tx. to the New York Times, seems to have prompted the letters to Bilger. "I haven't received a letter favorable to the Narconon program yet... they are all negative."

For example, a writer from Illinois says, "I can empathize with your town' s plight and have the utmost admiration for those who are fighting to close down Narconon's newest operation before it actually is in operation.

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Poster:bigthetan
Date:2005-03-21 19:48
Subject:NarConon killed two more boys
Security:Public

CORRIERE DELLA SERA Monday Feb 20, 1995 pag. 13

Tragedy while fighting drugs

"Two boys die at the dianetic center"

They were hosted in a center in Lombardy - same symptoms in both the victims - The defense: "we saved 1,200 people"

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